News at Ten warns "Many will find his comments abhorrent" as Khalil al-Hayya deplores attacks on Israeli civilians, urges a ceasefire and seems ready for a two-state solution
That wasn’t a real interview. It was a questionnaire created to frame Israel as an honest broker (hah!) and demoralize the resistance. “Israel says … Israel claims … Israel says …” Israel lies. It was a stilted list of biased questions that simply confirmed prejudices, made no connections with context, presented no new insights and taught us nothing. Shame on the BBC. I thought part of their remit was to inform. Well, they failed abjectly. It’s no wonder I no longer listen to them.
Excellent article. Fair and considered. Have always respected Jeremy Bowen but clear that the BBC has lost all impartiality when it comes to Isreal. No longer even reports major incidents in the war. Channel 4 to its credit does.
Clive Myrie has similar form reporting the war in Ukraine, though in this regard he is topped by his colleague and arch-propagandist Steve Rosenberg. The great irony lies in his touting the BBC's (and his part therein) never ceasing quest to sniff out disinformation and protect the public from propaganda. Truly we live in an Orwellian age.
Hamas and Hezbolla's stated aim is to destroy Israel. They are fanatics who are willing to sacrifice innocent civilians. To take hostages is an abborant gesture that only terrorists employ. Westerners backing Hamas and Hexbolla are useful idiots doing the work of tyrants everywhere. I thought the BBC interview with the Hamas leader showed how craven they have become after decades of anti Israeli propaganda from the antiSemitic Left.
This is abhorrent for the BBC, but the Israeli PM's words are music to their ears. I was hoping as the world progresses the MSM might finally change, HOW WRONG I WAS!?!? It has gotten worse and I can only imagine the worse is yet to come!
Hamas are a proscribed terrorist organisation. So are Hezbollah. Maybe that slipped your mind. Hamas broke a ceasefire on October the 7th last year. They don’t want peace. They want to eradicate the Jews. They have said they want cease fires only to change the deal at the last moment. It is posturing in a pr campaign. If they want a ceasefire now it’s because they picked a fight and are having their arses handed to them. Israel is surrounded by hostile countries and is fighting an existential war for themselves and the future of the West as we know it. No doubt you don’t mind that because, I’m guessing, as a progressive, you probably think the system you enjoy the benefits of stinks. Personally I would rather see the spanking and eradication of Hamas, Hezbollah and the Iranian regime so that the Islamist threat to my way of life is put back in its box.
If you're not an actual paid shill, or even if you are, watch Israelism or Defamation. Both insightful documentaries. These untruths you spew no longer work, the people are already aware that the emporer is naked.
Great response. Well reasoned with lots of argument………oh no……. Hang on a minute…….the usual left wing virtue signalling bolllox that crumbles under the lightest scrutiny but you persist There’s a name for people like you. X
Proscribed by who ? Every atrocity carried out in the last 12 months in Gaza and Lebanon can only be described as acts of terror and genocide . Are you trying to do a Corbyn on Cook ? The ship has sailed, we all see the Zionist for what they truly are…….barbaric killing machines .
You’re an anti semite. Save your rage for Assads own citizens or the murdered in Iran. Arafat was offered a deal by Barak and Clinton that gave the PLO everything. They rejected it because they just don’t want Israel to exist. Arafat died with 8 billion in the bank.
You can call me anything you want, I couldn’t care less . You’re a nasty old racist and no I don’t think Israel should exist . They are a state devoid of morals or brains, I hope Iran takes them out .
A state like you. Go virtue signal to someone who gives a shit. Genocide🤣🤣🤣their populations increased by 4 times since 1948. It was Israel sending polio injections in recently not Hamas. It’s Hamas that started a war and hid behind civilians. They could have handed the hostages back they chose not to. Fun fact, the combatant to civilian death ratio in this war, and it is a war declared by a medieval death cult, is 1:1. The lowest civilian casualties in history. Not that it matters to you you Jew hater.
We're all listening to John because he talks plain and simple facts and makers perfect sense. I hope you enjoy supporting terrorism and an idealogy that would end your way of life in a heartbeat given a chance.
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The fear of our western elites is that if Israel falls, most of the world’s oil will be controlled by China and Russia. The current alliance between Neocons and Zionist extremists is a threat to the entire human race.
But they allowed him to make his points. If the BBC was truly a state propagandist, they would not have allowed him on the programme. Sometimes journalists have to play devils advocate. Jeremy Bowen is a fine journalist and he knows full well the plight of the Palestinians and has seen Israel’s brutal treatment of them first hand.
Hamas, surprisingly, is an indigenous Arab resistance organisation. Isreali's, surprisingly, are mainly Europeans that began settling in Palestine from the 1920s onwards during the British Mandate. The Ashkenazics, Khazarians and Sephardic Jews from East Germany, North West Asia, Ukraine and the Iberian peninsular respectively have no legal claim to Palestine just as German NAZIs had no legal claim to Western europe from 1940 to 1945. Your comment "How can you POSSIBLY support Hamas in this" is as rediculous as stating "how could anybody support the Norwegian, French and Dutch resistance against German NAZISM 1940-1945".
Hamas is a designated terrorist organization by numerous countries, including the United States, the European Union, and UK, due to its tactics of deliberately targeting civilians, including suicide bombings, rocket attacks, and the use of human shields. While it presents itself as a resistance movement against Israeli occupation, its actions and ideology go far beyond legitimate resistance. Hamas's charter has historically called for the destruction of Israel, and it does not simply seek to liberate Palestinians but to eliminate the Jewish state entirely.
Comparing Hamas to the French, Dutch, or Norwegian resistance during World War II is pathetic. The European resistance movements fought against an occupying force that was brutally oppressive and engaged in an actual genocide. Not a sovereign state under attack being falsely accused of a genocide. These WW2 movements targeted military installations, not civilians, and their objective was national liberation within their own borders, not the elimination of an entire people. Hamas, on the other hand, frequently targets Israeli civilians with rocket fire, terror attacks, and other violent means including rape and torture, which is fundamentally different from the operations of World War II resistance groups.
The assertion that Israeli Jews are "mainly Europeans" who have no historical connection to the land is factually incorrect. Jewish ties to the land of Israel date back thousands of years. Jews have lived in the land continuously since ancient times, even after many were exiled following the Roman destruction of the Second Temple in 70 CE. While the Jewish population in the region diminished over time, communities remained in places like Jerusalem, Safed, Hebron, and Tiberias, long before the modern waves of Jewish immigration in the 19th and 20th centuries.
The waves of Jewish immigration from Europe and elsewhere (including Sephardic Jews from the Middle East and North Africa) in the 19th and 20th centuries were driven by rising anti-Semitism, pogroms, and persecution in Europe and Arab lands. These immigrants were not foreign colonizers but people returning to their ancestral homeland. Moreover, many Jews who immigrated to Palestine during the British Mandate did so legally, purchasing land and contributing to the development of the region.
While Ashkenazi Jews (from Europe) and Sephardi Jews (from the Iberian Peninsula and North Africa) have different historical and cultural experiences, they both trace their roots to the ancient Jewish people of the Land of Israel. The notion that Jews of different backgrounds have no "legal" claim to the land ignores both their historical connection and their legal rights under international agreements such as the Balfour Declaration and the UN Partition Plan.
The fundamental difference between resistance groups during World War II and Hamas is the targeting of civilians. Hamas has consistently engaged in attacks against Israeli civilians, including firing rockets into cities, suicide bombings, and other forms of terrorism. Resistance movements during World War II, such as those in France or Norway, were primarily focused on attacking military targets and undermining Nazi occupation forces. They were not engaged in indiscriminate violence against civilians.
After the Holocaust, in which six million Jews were murdered, the need for a Jewish state became even more urgent. Many Jewish survivors of the Holocaust had nowhere to go, as much of Europe was hostile or devastated by war. The establishment of Israel provided a safe haven for Jews who had faced centuries of persecution, culminating in the genocide of the Holocaust.
The creation of Israel was supported by the United Nations through the 1947 Partition Plan (Resolution 181), which legally sanctioned the establishment of a Jewish state. This was not an arbitrary act of land seizure but a recognition of the need for a homeland for Jews after centuries of displacement and persecution.
The establishment of Israel was based on the 1947 UN Partition Plan, which proposed the creation of both a Jewish state and an Arab state in the territory of Mandatory Palestine. The Jewish community accepted the plan, while the Arab leadership rejected it and, along with surrounding Arab states, launched a war against the newly declared State of Israel. Despite being attacked, Israel successfully defended itself and established its sovereignty within the borders set by the armistice lines.
The Jewish connection to the land of Israel is ancient and well-documented, and the creation of Israel was a legitimate and legal process, sanctioned by the international community in the wake of unprecedented persecution of Jews, particularly during the Holocaust. Supporting the existence of Israel does not negate sympathy for Palestinian suffering, but Hamas's tactics and ideology is sick 🤢 and it harms the people of Palestine more than anything.
Frankly you should be ashamed of your open support of Hamas.
The 🐘 Elephant in this conversation is 'who' designates a group as "terrorist". The G7 or "Old Colonial Club" is responsible for well over 35 million murders of innocent children, women and men since 1950. The G7 sometimes finds it necessary to relegate terrorist groups to "friendly status" when it suits them such as ISIS operating in Syria. The "European Terrorist" MO has been "murder for profit" for 500 years. Both American continents, Africa, Australia, New Zealand etc bear witness.
Nah. That "elephant" is just moral confusion on your part. Your hatred of the West does little to improve the lives of the people who live in the countries where these terrorist groups hold power.
Thank goodness someone with historical knowledge and objectively accurate information explained the facts to the misinformed and uninformed people on this thread. They should all be deeply ashamed of their support for a known and recognized terror organization, and throroughly
embarrassed by the gullibility required to accept the stream of lies coming from, again, a terrorist. Praying and hoping that they pay close attention to your comment and reconsider the comments they made of this list.
Zionism, its methods and adherents are the problem here. (Not the Jews or Judaism, for clarity's sake, though those linguistic contortions are no longer required in intelligent conversation).
The particular turd that is Zionism can't be polished so you're wasting your time
That wasn’t a real interview. It was a questionnaire created to frame Israel as an honest broker (hah!) and demoralize the resistance. “Israel says … Israel claims … Israel says …” Israel lies. It was a stilted list of biased questions that simply confirmed prejudices, made no connections with context, presented no new insights and taught us nothing. Shame on the BBC. I thought part of their remit was to inform. Well, they failed abjectly. It’s no wonder I no longer listen to them.
Excellent article. Fair and considered. Have always respected Jeremy Bowen but clear that the BBC has lost all impartiality when it comes to Isreal. No longer even reports major incidents in the war. Channel 4 to its credit does.
Clive Myrie has similar form reporting the war in Ukraine, though in this regard he is topped by his colleague and arch-propagandist Steve Rosenberg. The great irony lies in his touting the BBC's (and his part therein) never ceasing quest to sniff out disinformation and protect the public from propaganda. Truly we live in an Orwellian age.
Real reason why uk government still sending weapons to Israel https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/keir-starmer-labour-party-quadrature-donation-arms-companies-israel-war-gaza/
Hamas and Hezbolla's stated aim is to destroy Israel. They are fanatics who are willing to sacrifice innocent civilians. To take hostages is an abborant gesture that only terrorists employ. Westerners backing Hamas and Hexbolla are useful idiots doing the work of tyrants everywhere. I thought the BBC interview with the Hamas leader showed how craven they have become after decades of anti Israeli propaganda from the antiSemitic Left.
This is abhorrent for the BBC, but the Israeli PM's words are music to their ears. I was hoping as the world progresses the MSM might finally change, HOW WRONG I WAS!?!? It has gotten worse and I can only imagine the worse is yet to come!
Max Blumemthal had an excellent interview the other day with an Iranian official. Not the screaming maniacs they are said to be
Did you see the doco Al Jazeera did on BBC and CNN bias . It was very good . You’re absolutely right about their pro Israel stance .
Hamas are a proscribed terrorist organisation. So are Hezbollah. Maybe that slipped your mind. Hamas broke a ceasefire on October the 7th last year. They don’t want peace. They want to eradicate the Jews. They have said they want cease fires only to change the deal at the last moment. It is posturing in a pr campaign. If they want a ceasefire now it’s because they picked a fight and are having their arses handed to them. Israel is surrounded by hostile countries and is fighting an existential war for themselves and the future of the West as we know it. No doubt you don’t mind that because, I’m guessing, as a progressive, you probably think the system you enjoy the benefits of stinks. Personally I would rather see the spanking and eradication of Hamas, Hezbollah and the Iranian regime so that the Islamist threat to my way of life is put back in its box.
No, you hate the truth.
Horseshit, Mr Beck. Horseshit hasbara.
If you're not an actual paid shill, or even if you are, watch Israelism or Defamation. Both insightful documentaries. These untruths you spew no longer work, the people are already aware that the emporer is naked.
Great response. Well reasoned with lots of argument………oh no……. Hang on a minute…….the usual left wing virtue signalling bolllox that crumbles under the lightest scrutiny but you persist There’s a name for people like you. X
Your cut and paste hasbara comments are adequately falsified in the public record so won't draw me into wasted effort as they do not warrant it.
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Proscribed by who ? Every atrocity carried out in the last 12 months in Gaza and Lebanon can only be described as acts of terror and genocide . Are you trying to do a Corbyn on Cook ? The ship has sailed, we all see the Zionist for what they truly are…….barbaric killing machines .
You’re an anti semite. Save your rage for Assads own citizens or the murdered in Iran. Arafat was offered a deal by Barak and Clinton that gave the PLO everything. They rejected it because they just don’t want Israel to exist. Arafat died with 8 billion in the bank.
I'm not an anti-semite.
I hate all Israelis equally, regardless of creed or colour.
Oh that includes people like you too, you fucking cretin.
Does that include Muslim Israelis? Cos at least you get those. And gay ones too. Not many Jews in Gaza, or people that will admit they’re gay either .
More barefaced lies, Beck. Simply more lies.
You can call me anything you want, I couldn’t care less . You’re a nasty old racist and no I don’t think Israel should exist . They are a state devoid of morals or brains, I hope Iran takes them out .
A state like you. Go virtue signal to someone who gives a shit. Genocide🤣🤣🤣their populations increased by 4 times since 1948. It was Israel sending polio injections in recently not Hamas. It’s Hamas that started a war and hid behind civilians. They could have handed the hostages back they chose not to. Fun fact, the combatant to civilian death ratio in this war, and it is a war declared by a medieval death cult, is 1:1. The lowest civilian casualties in history. Not that it matters to you you Jew hater.
You love the sound of your own voice, just as well because no one else is listening .
We're all listening to John because he talks plain and simple facts and makers perfect sense. I hope you enjoy supporting terrorism and an idealogy that would end your way of life in a heartbeat given a chance.
Thank you, Mr. Cook, for being you.
Viva Palestine and the entire Axis of Resistance to Untold/Untellable Evil!
This article is so insane, even I can debunk it at every single point.
Thanks for calling out the sane washing of Israeli atrocities in Gaza, Westbank and now Lebanon.
I only can say: Magnific Article! Thanks
Hi Teresa,
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With love from a stranger
The fear of our western elites is that if Israel falls, most of the world’s oil will be controlled by China and Russia. The current alliance between Neocons and Zionist extremists is a threat to the entire human race.
But they allowed him to make his points. If the BBC was truly a state propagandist, they would not have allowed him on the programme. Sometimes journalists have to play devils advocate. Jeremy Bowen is a fine journalist and he knows full well the plight of the Palestinians and has seen Israel’s brutal treatment of them first hand.
Then you assume that propaganda is a blunt and simplistic tool. BBC propaganda probably helped you think that.
Framing is crucial and a skillful art.
Really , he played the role well, should be given an Emmy
How can you POSSIBLY support Hamas in this? Despicable.
please read some history about the ongoing atrocities in Gaza over decades
Please don't learn about the world around you on Tiktok.
Hamas, surprisingly, is an indigenous Arab resistance organisation. Isreali's, surprisingly, are mainly Europeans that began settling in Palestine from the 1920s onwards during the British Mandate. The Ashkenazics, Khazarians and Sephardic Jews from East Germany, North West Asia, Ukraine and the Iberian peninsular respectively have no legal claim to Palestine just as German NAZIs had no legal claim to Western europe from 1940 to 1945. Your comment "How can you POSSIBLY support Hamas in this" is as rediculous as stating "how could anybody support the Norwegian, French and Dutch resistance against German NAZISM 1940-1945".
Hamas is a designated terrorist organization by numerous countries, including the United States, the European Union, and UK, due to its tactics of deliberately targeting civilians, including suicide bombings, rocket attacks, and the use of human shields. While it presents itself as a resistance movement against Israeli occupation, its actions and ideology go far beyond legitimate resistance. Hamas's charter has historically called for the destruction of Israel, and it does not simply seek to liberate Palestinians but to eliminate the Jewish state entirely.
Comparing Hamas to the French, Dutch, or Norwegian resistance during World War II is pathetic. The European resistance movements fought against an occupying force that was brutally oppressive and engaged in an actual genocide. Not a sovereign state under attack being falsely accused of a genocide. These WW2 movements targeted military installations, not civilians, and their objective was national liberation within their own borders, not the elimination of an entire people. Hamas, on the other hand, frequently targets Israeli civilians with rocket fire, terror attacks, and other violent means including rape and torture, which is fundamentally different from the operations of World War II resistance groups.
The assertion that Israeli Jews are "mainly Europeans" who have no historical connection to the land is factually incorrect. Jewish ties to the land of Israel date back thousands of years. Jews have lived in the land continuously since ancient times, even after many were exiled following the Roman destruction of the Second Temple in 70 CE. While the Jewish population in the region diminished over time, communities remained in places like Jerusalem, Safed, Hebron, and Tiberias, long before the modern waves of Jewish immigration in the 19th and 20th centuries.
The waves of Jewish immigration from Europe and elsewhere (including Sephardic Jews from the Middle East and North Africa) in the 19th and 20th centuries were driven by rising anti-Semitism, pogroms, and persecution in Europe and Arab lands. These immigrants were not foreign colonizers but people returning to their ancestral homeland. Moreover, many Jews who immigrated to Palestine during the British Mandate did so legally, purchasing land and contributing to the development of the region.
While Ashkenazi Jews (from Europe) and Sephardi Jews (from the Iberian Peninsula and North Africa) have different historical and cultural experiences, they both trace their roots to the ancient Jewish people of the Land of Israel. The notion that Jews of different backgrounds have no "legal" claim to the land ignores both their historical connection and their legal rights under international agreements such as the Balfour Declaration and the UN Partition Plan.
The fundamental difference between resistance groups during World War II and Hamas is the targeting of civilians. Hamas has consistently engaged in attacks against Israeli civilians, including firing rockets into cities, suicide bombings, and other forms of terrorism. Resistance movements during World War II, such as those in France or Norway, were primarily focused on attacking military targets and undermining Nazi occupation forces. They were not engaged in indiscriminate violence against civilians.
After the Holocaust, in which six million Jews were murdered, the need for a Jewish state became even more urgent. Many Jewish survivors of the Holocaust had nowhere to go, as much of Europe was hostile or devastated by war. The establishment of Israel provided a safe haven for Jews who had faced centuries of persecution, culminating in the genocide of the Holocaust.
The creation of Israel was supported by the United Nations through the 1947 Partition Plan (Resolution 181), which legally sanctioned the establishment of a Jewish state. This was not an arbitrary act of land seizure but a recognition of the need for a homeland for Jews after centuries of displacement and persecution.
The establishment of Israel was based on the 1947 UN Partition Plan, which proposed the creation of both a Jewish state and an Arab state in the territory of Mandatory Palestine. The Jewish community accepted the plan, while the Arab leadership rejected it and, along with surrounding Arab states, launched a war against the newly declared State of Israel. Despite being attacked, Israel successfully defended itself and established its sovereignty within the borders set by the armistice lines.
The Jewish connection to the land of Israel is ancient and well-documented, and the creation of Israel was a legitimate and legal process, sanctioned by the international community in the wake of unprecedented persecution of Jews, particularly during the Holocaust. Supporting the existence of Israel does not negate sympathy for Palestinian suffering, but Hamas's tactics and ideology is sick 🤢 and it harms the people of Palestine more than anything.
Frankly you should be ashamed of your open support of Hamas.
The 🐘 Elephant in this conversation is 'who' designates a group as "terrorist". The G7 or "Old Colonial Club" is responsible for well over 35 million murders of innocent children, women and men since 1950. The G7 sometimes finds it necessary to relegate terrorist groups to "friendly status" when it suits them such as ISIS operating in Syria. The "European Terrorist" MO has been "murder for profit" for 500 years. Both American continents, Africa, Australia, New Zealand etc bear witness.
Nah. That "elephant" is just moral confusion on your part. Your hatred of the West does little to improve the lives of the people who live in the countries where these terrorist groups hold power.
Laughable response.
Your Sith mind tricks do not work on me.
100% Jonathan. Thank you.
Thank goodness someone with historical knowledge and objectively accurate information explained the facts to the misinformed and uninformed people on this thread. They should all be deeply ashamed of their support for a known and recognized terror organization, and throroughly
embarrassed by the gullibility required to accept the stream of lies coming from, again, a terrorist. Praying and hoping that they pay close attention to your comment and reconsider the comments they made of this list.
The hasbara crew are scraping the barrel here.
Zionism, its methods and adherents are the problem here. (Not the Jews or Judaism, for clarity's sake, though those linguistic contortions are no longer required in intelligent conversation).
The particular turd that is Zionism can't be polished so you're wasting your time