Claims of systematic rape on October 7 appeal to a racist trope of the savage, predatory Arab. Which is why western politicians and media are so unconcerned by the dearth of evidence
You know, its funny. I first heard of you because you tried to claim that Iran treats its Jewish population well. Subsequently another, jewish, journalist broke down your claims as absurd. I see that that was on the tip of your rather disgusting methodology.
You are a propagandizing, ignorant sympathizer and even the oft-benign UN refutes you. You are convincing no one, your claims of the absence of evidence are far more refutable than the evidence you question, and I struggle to pray for God or so much as street thugs to have mercy on your soul.
But you won't publish this comment, as you are manipulating rhetoric and criticism, yourself.
UN just released its report and concurred that rape and sexual violence were systematically weaponized on October 7th. Would you care to issue an apology?
...refreshing to read a reasonable take on the situation. Donald Trump has taught them well in that if you tell a lie loudly enough and keep repeating it over and over again, you don't need evidence for people to believe it.
While this is a great article, it is making a key narrative error that favors Israeli and Western media propaganda. Here's a substack which breaks down the problem:
"A lie is halfway round the world before the truth has got it's pants on." Mark Twain
Thanks Jonathan Cook for your continued courage, tenacity, rigour and forensic insight into addressing the above. Your relentless energy keeps morals, decency and truth in the fight against an almost overwhelming tide of vile lies and deceits.
“The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters.” Antonio Gramsci
"Given that Palestinians flooded out of Gaza that day after Hamas fighters broke through the prison fence, only a fool would argue with certainty that no rapes or sexual assaults occurred."
As far as I am aware the only evidence is of a testimonial nature. I would doubt that rapes occurred, but for sure, there were many innocent people killed on October 7th.
It's interesting that the modern feminist trope "believe all women" has been weaponised by the state of Israel to help justify their mass slaughter campaign. It's dangerous to believe what anyone claims without question.
The trope has its roots in child abuse cases, where the abuse is ongoing and the claims of assault made by the child have to be taken seriously. The child has to be believed even though there may not always be hard evidence to support their claims.
But this in my opinion should not apply to adults under any circumstances. That doesn't mean that adult claims of rape and abuse should always be dismissed, but they should require more evidence than simple testimony.
Someone somewhere said/wrote - something about religion and therefore rape is not plausible! I am neither Middle Easter nor Jewish and the last last thing you would ever call me is religious but maybe Mr. Cook could look into it!
Every uk, us and western world leader I know has at some point used their attendance to religious activity as validation of their worthiness when seeking election. Yet these same governments act time and again in contravention of their 'religion'.
But far from being alone in this, the reason governments succeed in their religious charade is due largely to the fact most westernised actively religious folk are also regularly engaged in breaking their own religions rules, and somehow, appear truly blind to it.
Us all being human and therefore fallable would to me suggest no religion is capable of preventing heinous acts, not one.
As to how JC would investigate this, as you propose, I'm not entirely sure anyone can.
In Islam, human sexuality is governed by Islamic law, also known as Sharia. Accordingly, sexual violation is regarded as a violation of moral and divine law.[1] Islam divides claims of sexual violation into 'divine rights' (huquq Allah) and 'interpersonal rights' (huquq al-'ibad): the former requiring divine punishment (hadd penalties) and the latter belonging to the more flexible human realm.[2]
I don't know John, I read or watched something that said it's highly implausible given the fact . . . . and then they spoke about religion and why. I certainly know nothing and just that it was very interesting. I googled it last night and that came up so perhaps that's what it's about?
The bottom line is - believe nothing Israel claims. Period. You don't invest one billion dollars on a "disinformation" campaign in addition to paying off everyone - if you're you're not trying to hide the truth
I am going to be excruciatingly and brutally honest and you are not going to like what I have to say. I also mean no malice nor disrespect . . .
I understand and certainly appreciate you invested a lot of time and research on this article but giving even a microscopic ounce of media attention to this particular "topic" - is giving it an ounce to much! Your time is also way to valuable and can certainly be spent exposing other things.
You know it, I know it and everyone that reads Substack knows what transpired on 10-07 contrary to the plethora of egregious, pernicious, malicious, unsubstantiated, lies the Israel lobby is has invested one billion dollars in spewing!
This specific topic however is the one repeated most often - and obviously, hence the reason for your post. But common sense tells all of us in addition to the entire world, Israel has now basically become the scum of the earth.
Anyone that could possibly slaughter this magnitude of innocent, defenseless, small children and toddlers, infants and newborns, shoot them at point blank range, bulldoze tents crushing people alive deny them the most basic medical supplies not only in attempt to save their lives but deaden the insurmountable and excruciating pain from burns, broken and severed limbs, starving them to death - denying water and sanitation so they suffer from disease while destroying and bombing every single hospital, school, church and refugee camps - shooting and slaughtering them as they attempt to flee bombing every single imaginable safe haven. My point being . . . .
How do I know what? The point of my post was - given the barbarism of Israel you needn't waste your time defending anything they say, the entire world already knows!
I think there is value to it - to help those still blind to the truth of Israel and her many governments genocidal actions for decades.
Only when the US colonisation under the banner of the state of Israel is stopped, only then do these analyses become superfluous, but until then they are needed.
I found a powerful account of this new dawning made by a group of Israeli women - their stories of the moment they realised the true facts of this geo-political matter are so watchable and ordinary I believe people outside of the ME require many versions of evidence before the facts will truly sink home.
The other side of that coin is Hamas also came very well prepared and took video's of everything. I forget who spoke/wrote about it (maybe Scott Ritter) but Hamas also has a very sophisticated technical arsenal - he said they ripped a page right out of the Hezbollah playbook. That's how the truth came out so quickly that it was actually the IDF and not Hamas that slaughtered the majority of people that day. You saw video's of Israel's that were there - the hysteria alone in addition to the footage solidified it's veracity.
The baby beheading allegations remind me of Allied propaganda in WW1 - how the German army supposedly impaled Belgian babies on their bayonets in 1914. There never was any evidence.
Thank you Jonathan for making the effort to remind all of us that journalists have a responsibility, like doctors, to “do no harm”. Your commitment to evidence-based reporting demonstrates your dedication to that principle, while not mincing words to describe the horror that is unfolding in Greater Palestine. Bravo! 👏
On the Hamas side, Who needs evidence? Just stir the emotions, rile the population, sell papers, attract eyeballs and, by all means, keep funding the military.
I believe the UN has disavowed your claims, and says that it happened.
https://press.un.org/en/2024/sc15621.doc.htm
You know, its funny. I first heard of you because you tried to claim that Iran treats its Jewish population well. Subsequently another, jewish, journalist broke down your claims as absurd. I see that that was on the tip of your rather disgusting methodology.
https://jewishjournal.com/uncategorized/16801/jonathan-cook-is-dead-wrong-about-irans-jews/
You are a propagandizing, ignorant sympathizer and even the oft-benign UN refutes you. You are convincing no one, your claims of the absence of evidence are far more refutable than the evidence you question, and I struggle to pray for God or so much as street thugs to have mercy on your soul.
But you won't publish this comment, as you are manipulating rhetoric and criticism, yourself.
UN just released its report and concurred that rape and sexual violence were systematically weaponized on October 7th. Would you care to issue an apology?
...refreshing to read a reasonable take on the situation. Donald Trump has taught them well in that if you tell a lie loudly enough and keep repeating it over and over again, you don't need evidence for people to believe it.
Such an idiot.
https://substack.com/@derpderpderp/note/c-45857071?r=2kpk00
While this is a great article, it is making a key narrative error that favors Israeli and Western media propaganda. Here's a substack which breaks down the problem:
It's Gaza, not Hamas
https://ericbrooks.substack.com/p/its-gaza-not-hamas
Max Blumenthal has a good tweet on Zaka. https://x.com/maxblumenthal/status/1735003374058115348?s=46&t=772nmjqwXfJ4yFA6Y6vrZQ
"A lie is halfway round the world before the truth has got it's pants on." Mark Twain
Thanks Jonathan Cook for your continued courage, tenacity, rigour and forensic insight into addressing the above. Your relentless energy keeps morals, decency and truth in the fight against an almost overwhelming tide of vile lies and deceits.
“The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters.” Antonio Gramsci
"Given that Palestinians flooded out of Gaza that day after Hamas fighters broke through the prison fence, only a fool would argue with certainty that no rapes or sexual assaults occurred."
As far as I am aware the only evidence is of a testimonial nature. I would doubt that rapes occurred, but for sure, there were many innocent people killed on October 7th.
It's interesting that the modern feminist trope "believe all women" has been weaponised by the state of Israel to help justify their mass slaughter campaign. It's dangerous to believe what anyone claims without question.
The trope has its roots in child abuse cases, where the abuse is ongoing and the claims of assault made by the child have to be taken seriously. The child has to be believed even though there may not always be hard evidence to support their claims.
But this in my opinion should not apply to adults under any circumstances. That doesn't mean that adult claims of rape and abuse should always be dismissed, but they should require more evidence than simple testimony.
Someone somewhere said/wrote - something about religion and therefore rape is not plausible! I am neither Middle Easter nor Jewish and the last last thing you would ever call me is religious but maybe Mr. Cook could look into it!
Every uk, us and western world leader I know has at some point used their attendance to religious activity as validation of their worthiness when seeking election. Yet these same governments act time and again in contravention of their 'religion'.
But far from being alone in this, the reason governments succeed in their religious charade is due largely to the fact most westernised actively religious folk are also regularly engaged in breaking their own religions rules, and somehow, appear truly blind to it.
Us all being human and therefore fallable would to me suggest no religion is capable of preventing heinous acts, not one.
As to how JC would investigate this, as you propose, I'm not entirely sure anyone can.
In Islam, human sexuality is governed by Islamic law, also known as Sharia. Accordingly, sexual violation is regarded as a violation of moral and divine law.[1] Islam divides claims of sexual violation into 'divine rights' (huquq Allah) and 'interpersonal rights' (huquq al-'ibad): the former requiring divine punishment (hadd penalties) and the latter belonging to the more flexible human realm.[2]
That may be so, but this does not mean that rapes and sexual assaults do not occur in Islamic cultures.
I don't know John, I read or watched something that said it's highly implausible given the fact . . . . and then they spoke about religion and why. I certainly know nothing and just that it was very interesting. I googled it last night and that came up so perhaps that's what it's about?
The bottom line is - believe nothing Israel claims. Period. You don't invest one billion dollars on a "disinformation" campaign in addition to paying off everyone - if you're you're not trying to hide the truth
Jonathan:
I am going to be excruciatingly and brutally honest and you are not going to like what I have to say. I also mean no malice nor disrespect . . .
I understand and certainly appreciate you invested a lot of time and research on this article but giving even a microscopic ounce of media attention to this particular "topic" - is giving it an ounce to much! Your time is also way to valuable and can certainly be spent exposing other things.
You know it, I know it and everyone that reads Substack knows what transpired on 10-07 contrary to the plethora of egregious, pernicious, malicious, unsubstantiated, lies the Israel lobby is has invested one billion dollars in spewing!
This specific topic however is the one repeated most often - and obviously, hence the reason for your post. But common sense tells all of us in addition to the entire world, Israel has now basically become the scum of the earth.
Anyone that could possibly slaughter this magnitude of innocent, defenseless, small children and toddlers, infants and newborns, shoot them at point blank range, bulldoze tents crushing people alive deny them the most basic medical supplies not only in attempt to save their lives but deaden the insurmountable and excruciating pain from burns, broken and severed limbs, starving them to death - denying water and sanitation so they suffer from disease while destroying and bombing every single hospital, school, church and refugee camps - shooting and slaughtering them as they attempt to flee bombing every single imaginable safe haven. My point being . . . .
DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME - WE ALREADY KNOW!
And how exactly do you know?
How do I know what? The point of my post was - given the barbarism of Israel you needn't waste your time defending anything they say, the entire world already knows!
I think there is value to it - to help those still blind to the truth of Israel and her many governments genocidal actions for decades.
Only when the US colonisation under the banner of the state of Israel is stopped, only then do these analyses become superfluous, but until then they are needed.
I found a powerful account of this new dawning made by a group of Israeli women - their stories of the moment they realised the true facts of this geo-political matter are so watchable and ordinary I believe people outside of the ME require many versions of evidence before the facts will truly sink home.
Here's the link:
https://youtu.be/dq74SHGIksQ?si=jzMDbUOYgoO1ZXBV
This was very good - thank you for sending it!
The other side of that coin is Hamas also came very well prepared and took video's of everything. I forget who spoke/wrote about it (maybe Scott Ritter) but Hamas also has a very sophisticated technical arsenal - he said they ripped a page right out of the Hezbollah playbook. That's how the truth came out so quickly that it was actually the IDF and not Hamas that slaughtered the majority of people that day. You saw video's of Israel's that were there - the hysteria alone in addition to the footage solidified it's veracity.
Plenty of time to get sophisticated technologically when you don’t have a job.
This is true, what's the unemployment rate? Two thirds of the population and highest in the world.
Given all the lies told by the IDF, I doubt if anything they claim is credible. The little boy can only cry Wolf so many times.
Unfortunately not everyone believes that they are lying.
Look at trump's lies. ........ thousands of lies....loved by those MAGAs. Lying is "in".
I think people "believe" the lies they like, lies that support their stupid opinions.
God exists: the most popular lie.
Zionists.
The baby beheading allegations remind me of Allied propaganda in WW1 - how the German army supposedly impaled Belgian babies on their bayonets in 1914. There never was any evidence.
First time I've heard that.
Thank you Jonathan for making the effort to remind all of us that journalists have a responsibility, like doctors, to “do no harm”. Your commitment to evidence-based reporting demonstrates your dedication to that principle, while not mincing words to describe the horror that is unfolding in Greater Palestine. Bravo! 👏
On the Hamas side, Who needs evidence? Just stir the emotions, rile the population, sell papers, attract eyeballs and, by all means, keep funding the military.